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Kinsman Thomas

November 4, 2011

I received the following message from an individual who wishes to remain anonymous, but whose comments I trust.

Here is what I am hearing…

Kinsman Thomas is transferring to another school. There were problems with him getting into fights with other teammates.

English has given him numerous warning and is sick of the BS.. Some teammate are happy that Kinsman Thomas is leaving. There are other on the team who may also be on their last legs.

Kinsman Thomas comes from a rough area and was not accustomed to being told what to do and he kept pushing the line with EMU team-rules. There were a few fights that he gotten into and was involved with some off-field problems that English had to address pertaining to him.

The team is focused and committed to moving forward with the team. Coach English had to put up with player BS the past couple years and he is not doing it again this year. When English joined EMU as a coach, some players felt they had him over a barrel with the lack of good players and poor recruiting, he is not having it going forward. I think this is good for our fb program going forward.

I wonder if he actually has his transfer lined up. Devontae Payne seemed to think he was transferring, but he hasn’t surfaced anywhere that I can find. Thomas is a junior this year, so if he transfers to a Division I school he’ll have to sit out a year and then have just one year of eligibility left to play.

Also, I wonder if there were some on-field issues also. Things like a lack of effort, or maybe he was unhappy with English’s vision for the offense. A run-first program calls for receivers to frequently become blockers — EMU’s receivers have generally been very good at this so far in 2011 — and more contact means a higher risk of injury.

In any event, if he was as big a problem as this comment makes it seem (and this is not the only such comment I’ve heard about him), I’m glad he’s gone. EMU football is a program on the rise, and there’s no room for distractions or for prima-donna players. I have no ill-will toward Thomas — in fact, I hope he finds what he’s looking for — but I’m glad he’s gone.

15 Comments leave one →
  1. Bobby Wicks permalink
    November 4, 2011 4:56 pm

    Kudos to coach English, a man of integrity. He’s winning his way, the right way. So many coaches I’m sure would have looked the other way, (Jim Tressel anyone?) especially since he was our best receiver. I respect coach English more than ever and I bet it will pay dividends in the long run. In the short run, Olds and Scott and Hunter will step up and keep this train a-rolling!

  2. Kenneth Barna permalink
    November 4, 2011 5:20 pm

    Dear Bobby,
    Could not agree with you more. I just do not understand people, who have been given a break, to compete in college football, and just throw it away, because they think they deserve special attention, or treatment, or commit crimes. Really dumb.

    • Bobby Wicks permalink
      November 4, 2011 5:33 pm

      No doubt Kenneth. I’m sure like you, I would have given my right arm to have my education paid for and to be able to continue playing football beyond high school. Sadly, a lot of guys don’t know how good they have it until it’s too late.

  3. November 4, 2011 9:28 pm

    On the flip side, many athletes that make it to a Division 1A program have had the run of whatever town they came from for most of their lives. They think that should continue later in life. Some programs support that behavior and some programs want them to think of the team. I am just glad that Eastern is the second category.

  4. Brandon Williams permalink
    November 13, 2011 2:50 am

    If these allegations are false, or if your trusted source was given some misleading information, How would this blog affect Kinsman Thomas’s chances of transferring to another program with rumors such as this one filling the internet?

    • November 13, 2011 6:52 am

      I would certainly think that any college football coach worth his salt would investigate further than reading an unconfirmed rumor on a blog. For that matter, even if this is 100% true and presents the whole picture, plenty of athletes have straightened out when they got to a different team, in a different city.

  5. Kenneth Barna permalink
    November 13, 2011 12:40 pm

    Dear Friends,
    There are always two sides to every situation like this, and maybe the true, or real reasons for Mr. Thomas disappearing from the Eastern roster will never be known. Having said that, Coach English appears to have the direction of Eastern’s program heading in the right direction, and unless there is some other information about this, I will trust his judgement in the matter. In the short history of Coach English at Eastern, he has probably kicked dozens of players off the team, for not doing as he has requested, but when you look at the players that have stuck it out, and stuck with him, and the results so far this season, I think again he has done the right thing, as far as we know with Mr. Thomas.

  6. Harley permalink
    December 28, 2011 1:12 am

    I feel like he was the best receiver there.he is from the same county I’m from and we played for the same coach and it is t a rough area.he got talent

  7. Free Man permalink
    February 8, 2012 7:49 pm

    None of you people will never know what happen. Coming from the person that knows him best, Kinsman is a good person. I see alot of you going of what you THINK happened. It would be best if you left it alone….. Besides he was & still will remain the best WR (EMU) had since his recruitment!

  8. Uncle T permalink
    June 13, 2012 2:09 pm

    Kinsman Thomas, like any other athlete that is being recruited, rely of the information given to be honest and hold up as a binding contract. When recruites (coaches) come into your home and “PROMISE” you certain things regarding your position with the team, how you’re going to be used and then use you as the face of the recuiting class to draw in other top recruits, what is there to expect? You expect them to keep their word and run the offense that was promised to YOU. I mean, let’s be honest here. A top recruit such as a running back will not go to a school that is PASS first only being promised about 5 to 10 touches a game unless that individual was promised something different (or a full back that was already accustomed to primarily blocking). I know you have to do what’s best for your team and although you can’t use the same game strategy against every team you play, but you can’t promise a receiver like Kinsman Thomas he’ll get the ball thrown to him about 5 to 6 times a quarter and then turn him into a blocking receiver (in which he was very good at doing). This is a team sport and i’m not making any excuses for the kid because i’m sure he played a part in his departure, but these recruits need to stop lying to these kids just to get them there. I’m sure he became frustrated (no excuse) because of the style of play they went to. These are young kids that are hundreds of miles away from home looking at their coaches for guidance. You can’t guide anyone if you weren’t straight up with them in the first place.

  9. September 16, 2012 2:53 pm

    Kinsman is not from a rough area. He comes from a good family and a small town. This kid was a model student in high school. It bad to paint negative image of this kids life when it is not true.

  10. Kenneth Barna permalink
    September 17, 2012 10:02 am

    Dear Friends,
    Can we drop the discussion of Kinsman Thomas? He’s gone. He isn’t coming back. Why continue a discussion that doesn’t mean anything?

    • September 17, 2012 8:17 pm

      The truth is the truth.


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